The Future of Podcasting Isn’t Just Video — It’s Format Flexibility

By Rob Greenlee

In the world of podcasting, the conversation too often turns into a binary: “Go video first” or “Stick with audio.”

But the truth is, the future isn’t about choosing one over the other—it’s about flexibility, adaptability, and understanding how both formats can work together to serve your content and your audience.

Video has become a powerful tool for discovery, growth, and monetization. Platforms like YouTube offer unmatched reach and the kind of revenue potential that audio platforms still struggle to match. But that doesn’t mean you have to abandon audio.

In fact, many of the most successful shows today are finding their stride by thinking hybrid from the start—creating content that sounds great and looks great.

Here’s something I’ve observed: transitioning from video to audio is much easier than the other way around.

A high-quality video recording can easily be repurposed into a compelling audio podcast. But converting a pure audio show into something visually engaging for video audiences? That takes more thought, more planning, and often a bigger creative lift. This is why designing with both formats in mind from the outset is becoming the smart move for creators who want to future-proof their shows.

That said, audio-first is still incredibly powerful. Podcasting began as an audio medium for a reason—it’s intimate, portable, and deeply engaging. Millions still tune in daily to audio-only shows while driving, walking, working, or relaxing. That connection isn’t going away.

The key is not to treat audio as a secondary format, but to find ways to enhance it with visual assets—clips, promos, companion videos—when it serves your content and audience.

For video-first creators, the opportunity is huge, but there’s a responsibility too. Just because your show looks great on screen doesn’t mean it’s ready to succeed as a podcast. Audio audiences need clarity, structure, and storytelling that works without visuals. Overlooking that can alienate listeners and dilute your message. But when done right?

A video-first show that respects the audio experience can reach audiences in both worlds.

This isn’t a competition between formats—it’s a collaboration. Video with audio. Audio with video. The creators who embrace this mindset will be the ones who stay ahead in a media landscape that keeps evolving.

The path forward in podcasting isn’t about picking sides—it’s about expanding possibilities.

What is a Podcast Today in 2025 and Beyond

By Rob Greenlee

Shorter Version:

Podcast (noun):
An on-demand, audio and or video episodic program, often conversational, narrative, or thematic in nature, distributed through open RSS feeds or proprietary platforms. While primarily audio, many podcasts include video versions and may be freely available or offered through paid subscriptions, existing as ongoing series or limited-run shows.

Longer Version:

Podcast (noun):
A podcast is an on-demand, audio and or video program released in episodic format, often centered on specific themes, stories, or conversations. While traditionally audio-based, many podcasts also include video versions, which audio and video can be distributed via open RSS feeds or platform-specific. In addition to open RSS distribution, podcasts may be uploaded directly to proprietary platform distribution and offered through paid subscription-based access models. Podcasts range from ongoing series to limited-run or short-series programs, and commonly feature conversational, narrative, or thematic storytelling formats.

Peak Podcasting in the USA in 2024?

By Rob Greenlee, Spoken Life Media, and NewMediaShow.com

The podcasting industry in the USA has experienced steady and consistent growth over the past 20 years, transforming from a niche hobby to a mainstream medium. By 2024, the podcasting landscape has reached a critical juncture characterized by high awareness and saturation. This maturation phase brings opportunities and challenges as the industry navigates a plateau in audience growth and shifts in platform dominance.

High Awareness and Listener Saturation
Recent data from Edison Research and Triton Digital reveals that Americans are nearly universally aware of podcasting, with 80% of the population aware of podcasts and 67% having listened to a podcast at least once. This significant penetration underscores podcasts’ widespread acceptance and integration into everyday life. However, this saturation suggests that the more rapid growth phase of podcasting may be behind us, and the industry is now entering a period of maturation or stabilization.

Further supporting this, a survey conducted by Edison Research indicates that the number of new podcast listeners grew only by 5% from 2022 to 2023 and only up 3% from 2023 to 2024. This plateau in audience growth necessitates a strategic pivot for podcasters and advertisers, who must now focus on retaining and deepening engagement with existing audiences rather than relying on the influx of new listeners.

YouTube: The Dominant Podcast Consumption Platform?
One of the most significant perceptional trends shaping the podcasting market 2024 is the rise of YouTube as the leading platform for podcast consumption in the research data. Known for video content, YouTube’s user-friendly interface and vast audience base have made it an attractive platform for audiences to think they are watching podcasts. According to research from Media Research Group, YouTube now accounts for 30% of all podcast consumption in the USA, rivaling traditional audio-only platforms.

This shift towards YouTube underscores the evolving nature of podcast consumption. Listeners increasingly favor platforms that offer a seamless and integrated experience, combining audio, video, and social engagement. For podcasters, leveraging YouTube’s algorithms and expansive reach can drive potentially higher visibility and audience engagement with a YouTube-specific strategy. However, it also demands a reevaluation of content strategies to incorporate visual elements and optimize for video-consuming audiences.

Spotify’s Dominance Beyond the USA
While YouTube is a key leader in the podcast consumption race in the USA, Spotify maintains a stronghold in international markets. Spotify’s aggressive expansion and strategic acquisitions have positioned it as a global podcasting powerhouse. The platform’s user-friendly interface, personalized recommendations, and exclusive content have attracted a substantial listener base outside the USA.

Research by the Global Web Index shows that Spotify commands 40% of podcast listeners in Europe and 35% in Latin America. Spotify’s dominance is particularly pronounced in these regions, where the platform invests heavily in localized content and partnerships. This international focus provides Spotify with a diversified audience base and revenue streams, mitigating the impact of market saturation in the USA. For podcasters with global aspirations, Spotify remains a crucial platform for reaching diverse and engaged audiences.

Decline in Podcast Advertising and Investment
Despite the high levels of awareness and engagement, the USA podcasting market faces challenges in advertising and investment. According to an Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) report, podcast advertising revenue grew by only 5% in 2023 for $1.9 billion, a stark contrast to the double-digit growth rates in previous years. We have yet to see if 2024 reaches the IAB projected 12% growth to $2.6 Billion in advertising revenue. Advertisers are becoming more cautious, scrutinizing the return on investment and reallocating budgets to other digital channels that offer more measurable and immediate results.

Broader economic factors compound this shift in advertising dynamics. The uncertainty in the global economy and tightening marketing budgets have led to a more conservative content safety and suitability approach to podcast advertising. Additionally, the proliferation of podcasts has led to audience fragmentation, making it more challenging for advertisers to achieve the same impact as they did during the medium’s early boom years.

Investors, too, are reevaluating their approach to the podcasting market. While there is still interest in innovative content and platform developments, the fervor for pouring large sums into podcast startups has tempered. According to PitchBook Data, investment in podcast-related ventures declined by 15% in 2023 compared to the previous year. Investors seek more sustainable and proven business models, focusing on profitability and long-term viability over rapid growth and market share.

The podcasting market in the USA has undeniably matured
Podcasting has reached a peak in terms of awareness and listener penetration. The dominance of YouTube as a podcast consumption platform and Spotify’s strong international presence illustrate the shifting dynamics within the industry. However, the current decline in podcast advertising and investment signals a need for strategic adaptation.

As the podcasting landscape evolves, stakeholders must focus on creating high-quality, engaging content while exploring new monetization strategies. The era of rapid growth may be over, but the potential for sustained success in a mature market remains promising.

What is Considered a Podcast in 2023? Convergence of Audio and Video Replayed Again

By Rob Greenlee, Co-Host of NewMediaShow.com and Host of Trust Factor with Rob Greenlee

Rob Greenlee

Podcasting has always been an audio and video medium, plus PDF files, a user request-based distribution and consumption medium. Some more recent medium participants and consumers think that podcasting is an audio-dominated distributed medium via RSS feeds. These folks are incorrectly perceiving podcasting as an audio-only medium.

Podcasting is becoming so much more TODAY.

The podcasting landscape has been shifting for a few years, especially with platforms like YouTube and Spotify bringing back the focus to video AGAIN and blurring the lines between audio and video content. The question is, who started this evolution back to more videos? was it viewer consumers of videos on YouTube or YouTube and Spotify? Well, I think YouTube and Spotify and platforms like StreamYard and Zoom are all contributing to this expansion of perception of what a podcast is TODAY. So, as we navigate the media world of 2023, what constitutes a podcast?

The Traditional Definition of a Podcast:
Historically, a podcast was a series of spoken-word content focusing on various topics. These audio and video recordings were distributed through RSS feeds as MP3 and MP4 media files to be downloaded or progressively downloaded playback, allowing listeners to follow and access new episodes on their devices.

The YouTube Podcasts Paradigm:
In an intriguing move, YouTube has begun to classify video playlists as podcasts, especially when these playlists follow a thematic or episodic structure similar to traditional podcasts. By integrating these “video podcasts” into its new YouTube Music area, the platform acknowledges the convergence of music, spoken word content, and visual elements. This move expands the definition of podcasting by suggesting that when serialized and thematic, visual content is increasingly perceived by YouTube viewers as much as a podcast as an RSS-only distributed audio and video counterpart.

Spotify’s Video Foray:
Not to be left behind, Spotify is dabbling and expanding into video content, which is increasingly being seen as Spotify expanding into video podcasting. Though Spotify initially launched audio podcast content, it now provides creators with tools to publish videos directly alongside their ingestion of audio files from podcast RSS feeds. This move positions Spotify as a competitor to YouTube in the “video podcast” space, reflecting the changing consumer appetite for versatile content that can be watched and or listened to.

Implications for Content Creators:
For creators, these changes mean more comprehensive tools and platforms to disseminate content. They can now cater to audiences who prefer traditional audio podcasts and those who lean toward video content. This flexibility can potentially expand their reach and offer diverse monetization opportunities.

The Essence of Podcasting:
Despite these changes, the essence of podcasting remains consistent: serialized content that delves deep into specific themes, stories, or topics. Whether in audio or video format, a podcast in 2023 is about creating episodic content that resonates with its audience, offering insights, entertainment, or information in digestible chunks.

The podcasting landscape of 2023 is more diverse and dynamic than ever. With platforms like YouTube and Spotify redefining what a podcast can be, it’s an exciting time for creators and consumers. While purists might argue that “podcasts” should be reserved exclusively for audio content, the industry’s evolution suggests a more inclusive future where audio and video coexist under the podcasting umbrella. Regardless of the medium, the content’s quality, relevance, and engagement will determine its success.

Evolving Consumer Habits:
With the ubiquity of high-speed internet and advanced mobile devices, consumers in 2023 have become more platform-agnostic, seeking content that can cater to their dynamic lifestyles. They might listen to an audio podcast during their morning run but switch to the video version of the same episode while having lunch. This fluidity between audio and video has driven platforms to accommodate both formats, reflecting the multifaceted consumption habits of the modern audience.

Niche Content and Personalization:
As the definition of podcasting expands, so does the variety of content. With the inclusion of video, genres like instructional guides, visual tours, and even short episodic dramas have found a home within podcasting platforms. Personalization algorithms, powered by advanced AI, ensure that consumers are exposed to audio and video content tailored to their preferences, further blurring the traditional boundaries.

Interactivity and Immersion:
One significant advantage of live video podcasts in 2023 is the potential for interactivity. Platforms have begun incorporating features allowing viewers to interact directly with the content – polls, Q&A sessions, or clickable links embedded within videos. This interactive layer adds a dimension of immersion, transforming passive listeners into active participants.

Challenges and Critiques:
While many celebrate audio and video mergers within the podcasting realm, it’s not without its critics. Some argue that the term “podcast” is becoming too diluted, losing its original identity. There are also concerns about discoverability; with the surge in content types, it can become more challenging for consumers to find high-quality content that resonates with them. Content creators, on the other hand, may feel pressured to produce both audio and video formats, stretching their resources thin.

The Future of Podcasting:
The trajectory suggests that the term “podcast” will continue to evolve. As augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) become more mainstream, we might see podcasts not just heard or seen but experienced in immersive 3D and 360-degree visual environments. Integrating haptic feedback and spatial audio could redefine what we consider a podcast.